Editor Roundtable: Fantasy Football Player Debate Series

Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:01am
By KFFL Staff

KFFL's team of editors choose which players they prefer to draft in specific scenarios that have been determined by the news, average draft positions, viewer questions and internal team situations. Fantasy footballers often have varied views on players or scenarios, and KFFL editors are no different.

Player
Pos
Team Cory J. Bonini Tim Heaney Keith Hernandez Nicholas Minnix
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Cam Newton
QB
Carolina Panthers     Sure, it'll be hard for Newton to repeat his record-setting rooking campaign in '11, but the upside is too great to ignore over a declining Brady. Brady is safe, but Newton's athleticism on the ground and through the air is too tempting.  
Tom Brady
QB
New England Patriots I'll take my chances with Brady being reunited with Josh McDaniels over Cam coming close to replicating last year's magical season. Newton has more upside, but Brady is safer. I just don't see Cam coming close to 14 rushing TDs again, either. Newton's 2H and feet fetish show more's possible, but CAR's target instability behind Steve Smith knocks him down a peg. Barrage of NE options makes mess for WRs and TEs, not for the slinger in his new, old O. Brady's reliability, haircut and Uggs all the way   Newton is special, but I want to see Year 2 before I invest so much in him. A high pick on Brady comes with his much lengthier resume and the Pats' addition of a downfield threat (Brandon Lloyd), plus plenty of dangerous aerial weapons already.
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Philip Rivers
QB
San Diego Chargers I am more comfortable with the idea of Rivers bouncing back than Manning replicating his 2011 success. I have just as much confidence in the Chargers' O without Vincent Jackson. Rivers' late-season rebound leaves me feeling confident about his '12 fortunes. Eli MUST stay near career-high att. to repeat 2011. Rivers should be cheaper and has more over-the-middle weapons. Rivers' strong 2H affirms his *down year* was still elite. Manning has the bling, but Rivers is still the superior QB talent in my eyes. The Chargers are without a true explosive offensive weapon, but they have multiple outlets that Rivers is good enough to exploit. If it weren't for the exits of a couple of Eli's targets, I might wait a round and take him. I'm expecting a rebound from Rivers, and despite a little turnover in SD, they have the quantity. Rivers has demonstrated more than once that he makes receivers. The Bolts' non-playoff sked should be a little easier than Big Blue's SB-winning slate, too.
Eli Manning
QB
New York Giants        
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Robert Griffin III
QB
Washington Redskins Griffin probably will out-produce Luck because of the talent around him, although I don't think it is a slam dunk. This is my lukewarm endorsement of RG3, and you can be sure I'll avoid both QBs in 2012. In chasing upside backup passers, side with the one whose legs earn fantasy points, too. Luck has a bigger immediate hurdle given Indy's overhaul. RG3 steps into a fantasy-ready spot. The Colts' rebuilding effort is in full swing, and the defense will put Luck in some bad situations. Griffin will have a tough time of it, too, but the weapons around him and his ability to improvise give him the slight edge. Washington's O-line problems should be less of an issue for RG3 than Indy's are for Luck. Each has weapons, but Shanahan is an outstanding QB evaluator, if nothing else, and he wants to unleash his new toy. If Giffin is available after the first 20 or so are off the board, I could see myself with him.
Andrew Luck
QB
Indianapolis Colts        
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LeSean McCoy
RB
Philadelphia Eagles Shady is much safer and has so much more upside, in my eyes. Rice has a metric boatload of touches in the last two seasons, whereas McCoy has just one year of heavy lifting. The Eagles star rarely takes a big hit and does a great job of avoiding contact in general. Baltimore's O is too one-dimensional, which allows defenders to key in on Rice more than McCoy. Philly's O makes me more comfy than B-more's. Michael Vick opens up the run game. Joe Flacco, notsomuch. McCoy is a versatile back who's more potent in the red zone. The offense in Philly runs through McCoy, and the presense of Michael Vick will continue to open up running lanes for him. I'm not a fan of relying on a runner coming off a lengthy contract dispute, and Rice has an awful lot of mileage for a man of that short stature. A number of Eagles could rebound in 2012 and steal projected TDs from McCoy, but he still has the edge in scoring prowess. Although McCoy is no slouch in PPR leagues, Rice's involvement in the passing game makes it a legit argument, at least - assuming that Rice is under contract and in camp, that is.
Ray Rice
RB
Baltimore Ravens        
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Ryan Mathews
RB
San Diego Chargers This one is awfully difficult for me. I give Mathews the edge by a hair. He has all of the talent in the world, but injuries and Norv Turner may work against him. CJ2K should bounce back, but I question how many touches he'll get. CJ2K will rebound with authority, but Mathews should surpass that. Even if SD doesn't run more, Mathews will be a capable receiving option. Top-3 RB upside Norv Turner and the Bolts are ready to rely heavily on Mathews this year, and without Mike Tolbert, he'll see plenty more receptions. CJ2K is still fast, but his options at QB don't inspire confidence in me. Defenses will continue to stack the box and look to shut him down. This isn't even a debate. Mathews or Ray Rice? Mathews or LeSean McCoy? If those aren't legit questions to you now, at the end of the year, you'll find out why they should've been.
Chris Johnson
RB
Tennessee Titans        
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Darren McFadden
RB
Oakland Raiders DMC all the way! If he remains healthy, McFadden will be the No. 1 back in fantasy (definitely in PPR). You just can't take the risk of drafting him as the top dog, though. Forte's holdout, as well as the additions of Brandon Marshall and Michael Bush, scare the tar out of me. Forte inherits DMC's former vulture (Michael Bush) and must fight for looks with Brandon Marshall. Plus, the potential holdout - another CJ2K drop-off? Both make me nervous, and though I fear DMC's health, I'll take my chances with his playmaking. McFadden appears fully healthy. He's still an injury risk, but when healthy he can be a top-five back. Forte remains unhappy with his sitch in Chicago and Jay Cutler has a new familiar toy to play with through the air. You wanna be down the king, you take Run DMC. Chicago has the look of a team ready to take it downfield more often, and Forte's red flags are nerve-racking for his lack of upside in comparison. At this point, I'd rather gamble that McFadden's elite abilities - in that offense - will carry me to glory.
Matt Forte
RB
Chicago Bears        
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Jamaal Charles
RB
Kansas City Chiefs   Mad props to AD for his comeback, but I prefer the RB with more ACL rehab time. KC is built to run this year. Don't worry about Hillis; Charles is the leader there and one of the most dangerous backs in the league. Both are coming off serious knee injuries, but I like Charles' chances of rebounding more. KC's O is in better shape to make him productive, and although Peterson is a rare talent, Charles is arguably a more explosive threat. This kind of question usually comes down to a couple of things: (1) Which injury caused more damage? (2) Which RB is further removed from surgery? In both cases, Charles wins easily. KC's roster makeup and philosophy are icing on the cake.
Adrian Peterson
RB
Minnesota Vikings The timeline says side with Charles, but AD's freakish athleticism steers me in his direction. I think he will be much better than some people expect. That said, he is still a No. 2 fantasy back, at best.      
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Isaac Redman
RB
Pittsburgh Steelers   McG, 30, will lose work to Ronnie Hillman and Peyton Manning. Redman, 27, has all-around game to last as full-season starter. When will Mendy be back, effective?    
Willis McGahee
RB
Denver Broncos The Peyton Manning Effect will be in full force here. I'm all about McGahee having a career year, as long as No. 18 is close to his former self on the field. Even if Manning isn't, the risk is still low considering when you typically draft McGahee. Expect double-digit TDs and at least 1,100 rushing yards.   Redman has the build and makeup to be succesful in Rashard Mendenhall's absence, but McGahee is proven. He was successful last year with a very mediocre (at best) QB, so if Peyton Manning is healthy, he should be able to match his numbers from a year ago. More TDs are in store. I like Redman a lot, but McGahee seems to receive considerably less fantasy respect and has no real comp for carries. TD vulture Tim Tebow is gone. Denver's RB looks like a potentially greater value.
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C.J. Spiller
RB
Buffalo Bills   Helu: Shanahan backfield. Spiller: tandem with a 31-year-old coming off a broken leg. Helu has the better setup heading into the year, but give me Spiller for the balance.    
Roy Helu
RB
Washington Redskins I like what Spiller did last year, but Helu could be special if Mike Shanahan remains committed to him. Both situations have their respective risks, although I find the reward potential to be much greater in D.C.   Mike Shanahan changes his mind more often than not when it comes to his running backs. However, Helu is the most talented of the lot in D.C. and he'll have his opps regardless of if he's starting every week. The same can't be said about Spiller with Fred Jackson the man in Buffalo. Primary competition: Fred Jackson (broken leg) vs. Tim Hightower (torn ACL). Helu wins in a landslide for that reason alone. RG3 may open things up for Helu like other mobile QBs have for their RBs, too. No such hope for Spiller.
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A.J. Green
WR
Cincinnati Bengals     Cruz will be expensive this year, and although Hakeem Nicks is coming off injury, he'll play. Green is the unquestioned No. 1 and will have help in wideout Mohamed Sanu. Green is the better raw talent and fits the mold as an elite receiver more than Cruz does.  
Victor Cruz
WR
New York Giants   Being Eli's slot man is comfy for reception collection. Increased defensive attention in late '11 didn't stop his YAC-friendly speed. Green seems too all-or-nothing to win my vote here.   Love Green's ability, and Andy Dalton looks like a winner, but there are too many steps that Cincy's can take backward to risk the kind of pick it takes to get Green when I can take a player who outdid him and is in a well-established offense. Only concern: If Hakeem Nicks is out, Cruz isn't a No. 1 WR.
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Andre Johnson
WR
Houston Texans Raw talent with health concerns ... I could be talking about either player. Jennings should be great, but AJ's upside if he is healthy is tough to match. He may be the most physically gifted receiver in the league behind Calvin Johnson, and one of these years he has to play 16 games, right? I'll be pleased with 14.   Injuries aside, Johnson has my vote every day over Jennings. He's more dynamic and has the ability to take over a game single-handedly. Jennings is nearing 30, too, and Green Bay has plenty of other weapons. I'll take my chances with AJ.  
Greg Jennings
WR
Green Bay Packers   Jennings has more mouths to worry about, but I'm willing to bet on him before AJ to play 16 games. HOU's a run-first O. GB, the opposite.   Johnson remains the greater talent, but Jennings doesn't have the injury concerns and is in a more prolific offense in which the pass rules. Easy choice.
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Miles Austin
WR
Dallas Cowboys Dez has more talent, but Austin has more upstairs. He comes with greater injury risk because his lower-body muscles are made of string cheese, but Bryant could do something so catastrophically stupid that you lose him for the year. Personal preference, I guess.      
Dez Bryant
WR
Dallas Cowboys   We've seen Austin's peak. Can't say the same for Bryant, a more consistent producer with better physical gifts and RZ presence. Austin's a handy WR1 or 2 value pick, but Bryant has superstar potential. Austin and Bryant appear headed in opposite directions. Bryant became a favorite target for Tony Romo in Austin's absence last year, and Austin can disappear for stretches, which has me leaning the younger and more productive Bryant. I'm not sure that there's an incorrect answer here, but Tony Romo gained trust in Bryant in 2011, especially while Austin was absent. The younger WR's injury history isn't unlike that of Austin's before the elder broke out in 2009. Bryant often comes off the board second, but I'd probably take him first.
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Roddy White
WR
Atlanta Falcons Roddy is still the guy in my mind. He will see plenty of doubles, but so will Jones. I really don't think you can go wrong either way with this situation, as new OC Dirk Koetter will open up this offense. ATL has to if they want to thrive in this division. Sure, an active Jones is explosive and induces drools. But White carries the track record and should once again place among the NFL leaders in targets, even while sharing the field with the sophomore. You really can't go wrong here. Matt Ryan is improving, and the Falcons could look to air it out some more. Five straight seasons over 1,000 yards for White make me confident that even a small decline will yield solid fantasy results. Defenses may have trouble picking their poison, so I'd be happy to opt for the established veteran in any format. The fact that White will probably come as a better deal is just gravy.
Julio Jones
WR
Atlanta Falcons        
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Demaryius Thomas
WR
Denver Broncos       Denver's new QB could turn Thomas into a monster, buy that may take a little time. Decker already spent the offseason earning Peyton Manning's trust, though, and that's the Factor Numero Uno for this passer. Decker, who's still underrated, looks like a much better value.
Eric Decker
WR
Denver Broncos I simply prefer Decker more. He is doesn't have the injury concerns Thomas does and was able to work closely with Manning since the QB's arrival in Denver. Their chemistry should be better, and Decker will draw fewer double-teams. Peyton's new toys.... Thomas will probably go sooner considering his upside, but he's brittle, and Decker's the better value. His precision and downfield push should earn No. 18's favor. I like Decker … a lot. But then again, so will everyone else because of the chemistry he's already built with Peyton Manning. If I don't have to grossly overpay for him, I'm all in. Thomas should be a very capable consolation prize if not.  
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Torrey Smith
WR
Baltimore Ravens Oy ... Neither? Smith may be in a better situation and has less pressure on him as long as Anquan Boldin is performing at an acceptable level. I rarely trust rookie quarterbacks, so for as mediocre as Joe Flacco as been for fantasy purposes, he should be able to get the ball to Smith with regularity. RG3's arm can utilize Garcon well, but I'll roll with the combo that has more history, even if it's just 1 year. Smith's field stretching should play well with Joe Flacco. Improved route running could push him to 70 rec. Damn. Garcon will see many more looks in Washington, but that doesn't mean he's all of a sudden a trusted WR option. He's been plagued by drops and inconsistency, and RG3 will be adjusting. Smith should become Joe Flacco's go-to guy over the aging Anquan Boldin. Flacco's big arm plus Smith's home run threat equals fantasy happiness.  
Pierre Garcon
WR
Washington Redskins       I'm a little torn on this one, especially because Garcon should be available later, and I don't like him much less. Smith's development in his rookie season impressed me greatly, though. I'm still on Joe Flacco's bandwagon. He'll surprise, and his desire for a big deal doesn't hurt. Smith will benefit.
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Rob Gronkowski
WR
New England Patriots     Another can't-go-wrong scenario. Gronk's record-setting campaign a year ago will earn him heavy coverage, but the Pats disguise enough to find ways to utilize him in two tight end sets. Be prepared to spend an arm and a leg for both, though. I get the argument about the advantage that one of these two can give you, but I probably won't get either of them because of the depth at TE and the requirements of each to give me that advantage. I'm more concerned about the effects of the drama in N'Awlins than I am Gronk's health, so, gun to my head, I'd go with the Pats' guy.
Jimmy Graham
WR
New Orleans Saints Jimmy G all the way for me. Gronk's numbers will come down, and New England added weaponry this offseason. Josh McDaniels' system ignores the position, but Gronkowski's talent will supersede that. Either way, Graham is one weapon less around him and plays for a team that is out to prove something. By a needle's margin. Can Josh McDaniels feed 2 elite TEs in a civil manner? Will Gronk's ankle hold up? Graham's only tapping the surface of his football acumen and is the safest part of NO's attack, which should lean on him even more.    
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Jermichael Finley
WR
Green Bay Packers   Postseason inflation alert: Davis now has to compete with Mario Manningham and Randy Moss, along with Michael Crabtree, in a less dynamic aerial O. All Finley has to do is cure his dropsies. He's a better value.   The Pack's TE may end up being the better value, but both fall into that category. Unquestionably, Finley will get his numbers, as long as he's healthy, and there are no concerns there. Perhaps SF's new weapons draw attention from Davis, the No. 1 option. Perhaps Alex Smith's breakthrough was a fluke, too. Why risk it?
Vernon Davis
WR
San Francisco 49ers I am not a Finley believer and wouldn't pay the overinflated price to land him. He has talent, but he is just one of too many in that loaded GB offense. Injuries are always a concern with him, too. Davis is more explosive and is effectively the primary cog of San Fran's improving passing attack. The addition of Randy Moss should only help Davis by opening up the middle of the field, while A.J. Jenkins is still a rookie with a steep curve ahead of him.   Davis is the easy choice for me here. Alex Smith is capable enough and Davis has proven to be a nice red zone target in SF. Finley's drops have left him as somewhat of a forgotten man in Green Bay with all the other weapons surrounding him. Finley's frequent duds are too maddening.  
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Aaron Hernandez
WR
New England Patriots     The two TE attack in New England has shown to be effective, however, Hernandez remains behind Rob Gronkowski in terms of looks, and his value relies too much on finding paydirt. Witten is safe, not competing with another at his position and has the trust of Tony Romo. The emergence of Dez Bryant will only help.  
Jason Witten
WR
Dallas Cowboys Hernandez's numbers will take a step back this year. He is an injury liability and has more weapons around him in the passing game. Witten is rock-solid and will be a huge part of Dallas' aerial attack, especially with no third receiver to speak of. Witten is the only fantasy TE on his team. Laurent Robinson's exit will open up red zone looks. Hernandez must fight with Gronkowski and is in line for a letdown.   Looks like there's no loser here, but Brandon Lloyd may affect Hernandez's production more so than Witten's will suffer while both of Dallas' WRs are healthy. It's not this simple, but I'll let each team's depth chart serve as the tiebreaker.

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