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Trekmonsters Thu Sep 4 11:01am CT

PSFL Draft Night 9/3/2025

 

Start Time 6:00 pm

10 owners were present representing 9 teams.  Missing: Maxwell Olson (Husky Trouble) but was on phone or text with D&D, and on phone call during small part.

Several proposals were voted on.  “Only present owners are allowed to vote on any proposal.” This philosophy was mentioned.  This needs to be decided on going forward. The commissioner will submit this discussion item online for all to weigh in.

A lively discussion occurred regarding last year’s vote that John proposed.  The details of the proposal were not clear. There was a consensus that a vote occurred. 4 owners remembered it passed including one who voted against it.  The rest did not state a vote did not occur, only that the details were not clear and we should not go with a proposal, of this big of a change, without better clarity prior to draft.

Commish stated if a vote occurred and it passed; there is a duty to institute it.  The new proposal clearly lacked details, and it is all owner’s responsibility to assist in clarifying the details of any new policy.  It is not only the commissioner’s responsibility.  If a vote occurred and it was passed going forward, there should be more effort to institute it than reject it.  Final note – all policies can be changed through proposal and voting.

John proposed that we change the “Hold Over” players from holding any two players from last year’s final roster to holding over any drafter player from your team’s final roster. Also – A player can only be held over for 1 year.  This proposal was voted on and at first count, the vote was 5-4.  Then Husky called in and it was requested – can Husky vote?  The Commish allowed it, Husky voted no, changing the vote to 5-5 – not passed. 

An adjustment was made to the Proposal, but once again voted down. 3-6

Jeffrey Proposed that the League Fee be increased by $10.00 to a total of $110.00.  The additional $100.00 will be donated to a Non-For-Profit organization, Family in Need, Go Fund Me Page, etc. by the League Champion.   The money will be sent to the chosen organization by the Commissioner on behalf of the PSFL. 

A vote was taken and passed 9-0

The commissioner proposed the need to appoint a secretary to help him with the admin responsibilities.  There were no volunteers came forward.  John suggested that the League Champion from the preceding year be the secretary.  A vote was taken, 9-0

Jeffrey (Trekmonsters) is now the secretary. (Scott graciously told everyone that with the new rule, he will be happy to be the secretary next year….:) )

Commish asked if any owner would like to be the Commish – no owner volunteered. John remains the commissioner.

A trade was offered between Scott and Chuck.  It was approved and the trade took place.

Bhayshul Tuten /Wr Travis Hunter on Team Beavis and Peace Out teams. Those were the players drafted involved in the trade before the draft.

Later during the draft, Becky and John made a trade for round 6. That trade was approved. 

However, they both missed the 6th round and concluded the trade in the 7th round.

Calvin’s Casino pulled the selection right out of the movie “Draft Day”.  In the 7th round, Calvin’s Casino selected by C. Ridley by mistake because of a time deadline.  He really wanted D. Montgomery.  The owners all agreed that D. Montgomery was selected by Calvin’s Casino, and no one would select D. Montgomery. 

In the 8th round, Calvin’s Casino then lessened confusion by selecting D. Montgomery.

This little move, that everyone missed, helped Calvin’s Casino’s Salary Cap.  By drafting D. Montgomery 1 round later, Calvin’s Casino saved $3,000,000 in Cap space that would have been paid to D. Montgomery.  Very Smart move.

Draft ended at 9:05 pm

Commissioner Wed Sep 3 10:36am CT

Good morning, Husky, and all other owners:

We used to have a rule that an owner needs to be present for the draft.  We made exceptions to that from time to time and during COVID.  While we wanted to have all owners present for the draft, we continued those exceptions for you and Peace Out due to your proximity and Chuck's vacation plans the last couple/few years.  I believe we all support this exception.

It is also our preference as a group to get together one time a year to slap each other on the back, ask about family, and break a little bread together.  That was one of the purposes of the league starting as well.

One of the on-going policies we have worked to maintain is conducting new business before the draft each year so that new rules can be discussed and voted on for the upcoming years drafts and polices, whether they pass or not.  A problem has existed that if an owner is not present for the draft, or in this case multiple owners, how do we carry out new business?  Given we try to meet at Doolittles for the draft, having new business with owners on the phone is very difficult due to getting a hold of them, noise level in the restaurant, and the added work it places on the commissioner. As such, we have moved to discussing new business without the new owners there and work for a majority of owners present at the draft.  In short, if you opt out of being present at the draft, you opt out of any voting.  To reinforce this, we have never clarified a new rule to present it to any owner who was not present at the draft and waited for their vote. We voted based on who was present. 

Of course, we certainly could communicate any changes in writing afterward.  While I have done this in the past, I did not this time.  Nor did anyone else.  As a remedy, I think we need to create a secretary position to help communicate changes and draft communications.  Who wants to volunteer?

(quote team=Husky Trouble]
I know I am unable to be at the drafts in person living in Florida, but I don’t remember voting on anything like this and also would have considered draft strategy differently if I knew about this.

 

Husky Trouble Wed Sep 3 9:59am CT
I know I am unable to be at the drafts in person living in Florida, but I don’t remember voting on anything like this and also would have considered draft strategy differently if I knew about this.
Commissioner Wed Sep 3 9:44am CT

Trek - The online draft program has limitations but can work with some adjustments.  I can explain it tonight or on a call.

Beavis - The discussion and voting on the new drafting process occurred before the draft last year.  It was proposed for this year. To my knowledge, it passed, and I believe that is the general consensus.  The details were to be developed between the 2024 and 2025 draft.  I am unsure how we would discuss and pass it without planning for it but of course it is possible.  I planned for it, drafted for it, and scored more points than anyone.  I do not believe the new system requires anyone to ever tank a season to hope for next season or only plan to win this season and give up the next. In fact, if everyone drafts rookies, a lot of great veterans - like Aaron Jones will be available. 

I will bring copies of the final rosters from last year, and the 2024 draft for everyone.


Commish

  

Team Beavis Wed Sep 3 9:18am CT
If we move to go to this new system, I don’t know how we can start this with this draft. No one was clear on the specifics, and I. and others, would have drafted differently if I knew this new information. I drafted to win last year, not thinking on drafting for keeping players for extra years. For example, I drafted Aaron Jones to win last year, and being long in the tooth, I would not have taken him where I did if I knew of this new carryover system. If we decide to change, we should change next year, and we all can plan our draft this year with that in mind.

Beavis Rukes!
Trekmonsters Wed Sep 3 8:32am CT

If we decide to go forward with what the Commish is suggesting, will the software that we use to draft with be able to accept a 5th round pick in round two and what do we do when we get to round 5, add the player in at that point?  Will that effect the draft in the following years?  

The reason I ask, is that I've found that it's difficult to add players to teams when they traded for a later round pick, say Team A is getting Team's B's 5th round pick and Team A will then have two picks, back to back in round 5.

Peace Out Wed Sep 3 7:53am CT
Edited: Wed Sep 3 8:01am CT
Everyone draft picks from last year round 1-16
Round 1
1. Purple Pride - Garrett Wilson WR, NYJ
2. The Wolf Pack - Josh Allen QB, BUF
3. Trekmonsters - Justin Jefferson WR, MIN
4. Bathroom Brawlers - DeVonta Smith WR, PHI
5. Calvin's Casino - Bijan Robinson RB, ATL
6. Menacing Horde - Breece Hall RB, NYJ
7. Team Beavis - Ja'Marr Chase WR, CIN
8. Dumb & Dumber - Christian McCaffrey RB, SF
9. Peace Out - Tyreek Hill WR, MIA
10. Husky Trouble - CeeDee Lamb WR, DAL
Round 2
1. Purple Pride - Deebo Samuel WR, SF
2. The Wolf Pack - Puka Nacua WR, LAR
3. Trekmonsters - Jahmyr Gibbs RB, DET
4. Bathroom Brawlers - Nico Collins WR, HOU
5. Calvin's Casino - Jonathan Taylor RB, IND
6. Menacing Horde - A.J. Brown WR, PHI
7. Team Beavis - Kyren Williams RB, LAR
8. Dumb & Dumber - Amon-Ra St. Brown WR, DET
9. Peace Out - Patrick Mahomes QB, KC
10. Husky Trouble - Saquon Barkley RB, PHI
Round 3
1. Purple Pride - Travis Etienne RB, JAX
2. The Wolf Pack - Derrick Henry RB, BAL
3. Trekmonsters - James Cook RB, BUF
4. Bathroom Brawlers - Josh Jacobs RB, GB
5. Calvin's Casino - Marvin Harrison Jr. WR, ARI
6. Menacing Horde - Devon Achane RB, MIA
7. Team Beavis - Jalen Hurts QB, PHI
8. Dumb & Dumber - Isiah Pacheco RB, KC
9. Peace Out - Kenneth Walker III RB, SEA
10. Husky Trouble - Lamar Jackson QB, BAL
Round 4
1. Purple Pride - Cooper Kupp WR, LAR
2. The Wolf Pack - Joe Mixon RB, HOU
3. Trekmonsters - D'Andre Swift RB, CHI
4. Bathroom Brawlers - Michael Pittman Jr. WR, IND
5. Calvin's Casino - Davante Adams WR, NYJ
6. Menacing Horde - Chris Olave WR, NO
7. Team Beavis - Aaron Jones RB, MIN
8. Dumb & Dumber - Brandon Aiyuk WR, SF
9. Peace Out - D.K. Metcalf WR, SEA
10. Husky Trouble - Rachaad White RB, TB
Round 5
1. Purple Pride - Stefon Diggs WR, HOU
2. The Wolf Pack - Drake London WR, ATL
3. Trekmonsters - Sam LaPorta TE, DET
4. Bathroom Brawlers - Rhamondre Stevenson RB, NE
5. Calvin's Casino - Mike Evans WR, TB
6. Menacing Horde - Jaylen Waddle WR, MIA
7. Team Beavis - D.J. Moore WR, CHI
8. Dumb & Dumber - Travis Kelce TE, KC
9. Peace Out - Zamir White RB, LV
10. Husky Trouble - Alvin Kamara RB, NO
Round 6
1. Purple Pride - Najee Harris RB, PIT
2. The Wolf Pack - James Conner RB, ARI
3. Trekmonsters - Tee Higgins WR, CIN
4. Bathroom Brawlers - Javonte Williams RB, DEN
5. Calvin's Casino - Zay Flowers WR, BAL
6. Menacing Horde - Zack Moss RB, CIN
7. Team Beavis - Rashee Rice WR, KC
8. Dumb & Dumber - C.J. Stroud QB, HOU
9. Peace Out - Raheem Mostert RB, MIA
10. Husky Trouble - George Pickens WR, PIT
Round 7
1. Purple Pride - Anthony Richardson QB, IND
2. The Wolf Pack - Malik Nabers WR, NYG
3. Trekmonsters - Joe Burrow QB, CIN
4. Bathroom Brawlers - Jordan Love QB, GB
5. Calvin's Casino - Kyler Murray QB, ARI
6. Menacing Horde - Calvin Ridley WR, TEN
7. Team Beavis - Jerome Ford RB, CLE
8. Dumb & Dumber - Amari Cooper WR, BUF
9. Peace Out - Chris Godwin WR, TB
10. Husky Trouble - Christian Kirk WR, JAX
Round 8
1. Purple Pride - Devin Singletary RB, NYG
2. The Wolf Pack - Keenan Allen WR, CHI
3. Trekmonsters - Jayden Reed WR, GB
4. Bathroom Brawlers - Rome Odunze WR, CHI
5. Calvin's Casino - Tony Pollard RB, TEN
6. Menacing Horde - David Montgomery RB, DET
7. Team Beavis - Terry McLaurin WR, WAS
8. Dumb & Dumber - Tank Dell WR, HOU
9. Peace Out - Jordan Addison WR, MIN
10. Husky Trouble - Jameson Williams WR, DE
Round 9
1. Purple Pride - Xavier Worthy WR, KC
2. The Wolf Pack - DeAndre Hopkins WR, KC
3. Trekmonsters - Blake Corum RB, LAR
4. Bathroom Brawlers - Jaylen Warren RB, PIT
5. Calvin's Casino - Brian Robinson Jr. RB, WAS
6. Menacing Horde - Christian Watson WR, GB
7. Team Beavis - Justin Tucker K, BAL
8. Dumb & Dumber - Jonathon Brooks RB, CAR
9. Peace Out - Brandon Aubrey K, DAL
10. Husky Trouble - Diontae Johnson WR, BAL
Round 10
1. Purple Pride - Trey Benson RB, ARI
2. The Wolf Pack - Jaxon Smith-Njigba WR, SEA
3. Trekmonsters - Harrison Butker K, KC
4. Bathroom Brawlers - Baltimore Ravens Def/ST, BAL
5. Calvin's Casino - Courtland Sutton WR, DEN
6. Menacing Horde - Jayden Daniels QB, WAS
7. Team Beavis - Nick Chubb RB, CLE
8. Dumb & Dumber - Ladd McConkey WR, LAC
9. Peace Out - Romeo Doubs WR, GB
10. Husky Trouble - Ka'imi Fairbairn K, HOU
Round 11
1. Purple Pride - Caleb Williams QB, CHI
2. The Wolf Pack - Dak Prescott QB, DAL
3. Trekmonsters - J.K. Dobbins RB, LAC
4. Bathroom Brawlers - Jake Moody K, SF
5. Calvin's Casino - Keon Coleman WR, BUF
6. Menacing Horde - Ezekiel Elliott RB, LAC
7. Team Beavis - Tyler Lockett WR, SEA
8. Dumb & Dumber - Brock Purdy QB, SF
9. Peace Out - Jared Goff QB, DET
10. Husky Trouble - Dallas Cowboys Def/ST, DAL
Round 12
1. Purple Pride - Tyjae Spears RB, TEN
2. The Wolf Pack - Chase Brown RB, CIN
3. Trekmonsters - Brian Thomas Jr. WR, JAX
4. Bathroom Brawlers - Dalton Kincaid TE, BUF
5. Calvin's Casino - San Francisco 49ers Def/ST, SF
6. Menacing Horde - Tua Tagovailoa QB, MIA
7. Team Beavis - Bucky Irving RB, TB
8. Dumb & Dumber - Gus Edwards RB, LAC
9. Peace Out - Chuba Hubbard RB, CAR
10. Husky Trouble - Mark Andrews TE, BAL
Round 13
1. Purple Pride - Jake Elliott K, PHI
2. The Wolf Pack - Ty Chandler RB, MIN
3. Trekmonsters - Cleveland Browns Def/ST, CLE
4. Bathroom Brawlers - Kirk Cousins QB, ATL
5. Calvin's Casino - Jerry Jeudy WR, CLE
6. Menacing Horde - Younghoe Koo K, ATL
7. Team Beavis - Justin Herbert QB, LAC
8. Dumb & Dumber - Austin Ekeler RB, WAS
9. Peace Out - Zach Charbonnet RB, SEA
10. Husky Trouble - Trevor Lawrence QB, JAX
Round 14
1. Purple Pride - George Kittle TE, SF
2. The Wolf Pack - Trey McBride TE, ARI
3. Trekmonsters - Marquise Brown WR, KC
4. Bathroom Brawlers - Evan Engram TE, JAX
5. Calvin's Casino - Baker Mayfield QB, TB
6. Menacing Horde - New York Jets Def/ST, NYJ
7. Team Beavis - Jakobi Meyers WR, LV
8. Dumb & Dumber - Xavier Legette WR, CAR
9. Peace Out - Curtis Samuel WR, BUF
10. Husky Trouble - Mike Williams WR, PIT
Round 15
1. Purple Pride - Jason Myers K, SEA
2. The Wolf Pack - Evan McPherson K, CIN
3. Trekmonsters - Daniel Carlson K, LV
4. Bathroom Brawlers - Tyler Allgeier RB, ATL
5. Calvin's Casino - Brock Bowers TE, LV
6. Menacing Horde - Kimani Vidal RB, LAC
7. Team Beavis - Jordan Mason RB, SF
8. Dumb & Dumber - Kansas City Chiefs Def/ST, KC
9. Peace Out - Miami Dolphins Def/ST, MIA
10. Husky Trouble - Pittsburgh Steelers Def/ST, PIT
Round 16
1. Purple Pride - Buffalo Bills Def/ST, BUF
2. The Wolf Pack - Houston Texans Def/ST, HOU
3. Trekmonsters - Adam Thielen WR, CAR
4. Bathroom Brawlers - Kyle Pitts TE, ATL
5. Calvin's Casino - Will Reichard K, MIN
6. Menacing Horde - Darnell Mooney WR, ATL
7. Team Beavis - Minnesota Vikings Def/ST, MIN
8. Dumb & Dumber - Tyler Bass K, BUF
9. Peace Out - Rico Dowdle RB, DAL
10. Husky Trouble - Brandin Cooks WR, DAL

Purple Pride Tue Sep 2 6:37pm CT
I don't love the options, but if choosing between the two, I would be in favor of the new proposal above by commish.
Peace Out Sun Aug 31 10:05am CT
In favor of it.